“No love for the wild”
HAERTS x Julian Klincewicz

“No love for the wild” is a third creative collaboration between multidisciplinary artist Julian Klincewicz and German-born, New York-based indie duo Nini Fabi and Ben Gebert, better known as HAERTS.

The ongoing collaborators first worked together on a short film POWER/LAND. The film focused on exploring our notions of personal power, freedom, youth and experiencing the world. Cinematic experience and visuals were the work of Klincewicz, while HAERTS brought everything together in a poetic way with their three, by then unreleased, songs.

Later on came Your Love. “It’s the crazy and almost reckless feeling that comes with the uncertainty of love. The wish for answers that can’t be given, or an endpoint that I think does not exist,” says Nini Fabi when discussing the song. “Your Love” is the first single from the upcoming album. It is honest, it is relatable and music video for the song, which again is work of Klincewicz, straight away gives you dreamy, love craving feels.

Now as a third act, they are giving us “No love for the wild.” A pop-up shop/exhibition that is centered around HAERTS latest release (of the same name), featuring a live performance, an extensive catalogue of new work from Julian Klincewicz, a floral installation by Brittany Asch and a unique capsule collection for sale.

We spoke with Nini Fabi of HAERTS and Julian Klincewicz prior their “No love for the wild” opening.

Let’s begin at the beginning. How did it all even start?

HAERTS: Benny and I have always worked together. It’s been that way since we met as teenagers in Munich. It’s been that way since before we fell in love.

We were both raised on a lot of classical music, but at the same time, we loved punk, George Harrison and Tocotronic. The music was how we connected.

We’ve always pursued our individual work as well, but there was that extra something we could only feel when we wrote music together, and out of that came HAERTS. We started in New York City after moving there in 2009. It was a big change for us. It was less polished, less ordered and more chaotic than where we came from. We felt free. I think HAERTS was our way of expanding our emotional world and finding who we were and what moved us within that freedom.

What made you move to NYC in a first place?

H: My mother took me on a trip to New York when I was 15. I remember walking through the city with her during the day and seeing music all night. I thought to myself that this was my city. I don’t know why, but there was something magnetic to it, so it seemed like a natural move.

New York is special, I must agree on that, and now Julian is a New Yorker so that, I bet, makes things much easier. Anyhow, how did the collaboration between you guys even start?

H: After seeing what he did for Gosha Rubchinskiy, we had to contact him. We loved every second of it because of its rhythm and the way he showed something very human and connected to everyone and everything he captured. We were in between albums at the time, and we wanted to create a longer video piece for three unreleased songs that we always had imagined as one unit. So when Julian got on board the idea became a reality called “POWER/LAND.”

JULIAN: As said, they reached out to me a little over a year ago to talk about doing a video project for a few un-released songs. I started listening to the songs over and over, and this one scene came to my mind clearly – abstract body flying through the air and then rolling down a giant sand dune. After that, I knew we’d have to shoot it in Michigan (laughs). We discussed the mood of the project quite a bit and talked more in term of feelings than of story, and I think we were able to connect on the mood of the work. Since then it’s been an ongoing collaboration.

H: Yes and after “POWER/LAND” we did “Your Love” and now, for the new album, Julian came on board as a creative director/visual interpreter to create photographs, video, merchandise, staging and all artwork.

And today we are only a day away from your third collaboration, “No love for the wild.”

Correct. “No love for the wild” is our most extensive project yet, and we are very excited about it because it brings our work into the physical space. When you release most of your work digitally, to us, it sometimes feels like it is swallowed into this big void, like it never happened. But with “No love for the wild” we want to have a direct connection, and we want to create a space where people can physically explore this world of music and art.

You talk about bringing together a space where people can experience things, physically explore music and art, etc. That said, how far away from a traditional idea of what pop-up is, are we?

J: I think the idea was just to dig in a bit deeper of what a pop-up shop could be, and what kind would make sense for the band. For me, it’s more about creating a place that can move and connect people. Benny and Nini have made a real and very radical commitment to really ensure that all their work is artful. That the intention is to create the most meaningful work possible, and hope that people can pick up on that. So when we started talking about it, we just wanted to make sure it could be one that really felt like HAERTS, and that feeling is one that needs to be conveyed in something more than a traditional sell merch – band – pop-up. We also conceptualized it as an alternative to a music video. This kind of wholistic approach where we’re showing you throughout the film stills, pictures, silk flags, flowers, clothing and of course the music, what our world is. We’re giving you all the pieces and tools, but it’s up to you (the viewer) to create something of your own from it.

Julian, you also make your own music. Did you ever talk about collaborating musically?

J: We actually never really have. I think we have a really good thing going on, where I can connect and translate Benny and Nini’s sound into a visual space in an exciting way, so we’ve always sort of just worked on that side.

H: It’s true, we have never spoken about that, even though I love your music Julian, and I find it very beautiful. I think it has to do with the fact that the work we do together is very focused and specific and everyone has their part in it. So we are making something together, which as you said, is very exciting because it goes beyond music, and maybe because of that, we’ve never felt the need to collaborate on a purely musical level.

Where do you find inspiration and what kind of music do you listen to normally?

H: Anything that moves us can be an inspiration. A poem, a piece of music, the ocean, a conversation, etc. We think of everyday life and creative process as one, and it’s hard for us to limit or pinpoint specific sources of inspiration.

With HAERTS it’s always been about our experience and looking at how we, and people in general, move through life. What makes us feel, think and do the things we do? How do we keep moving through love and pain, and how do we connect and communicate that? The new album was inspired by a lot of things we could only communicate through the music. It’s about our love and love in general, but looking at it from different angles.

What do you think would be the hardest thing for you to give up on?

H: Freedom.

J: The capacity to love. Love is everything.

What makes you bored?

H: Technicalities. But we don’t get bored easily. We try to avoid or escape the situations and things that get us there.

J: Complacency, but maybe that’s more of frustration, though.

What song makes you feel happy every time you listen to it?

H: Alone Again(Naturally) by Gilbert O’Sullivan.

J: Heart of the Night by Poco. It’s on my “songs to strut to in NYC” playlist.

NO LOVE FOR THE WILD, a pop-up shop and exhibition by HAERTS & Julian Klincewicz together with Brittany Asch, opens on Wednesday, June 21st at 6 pm at Parasol Projects, at 208 Bowery, New York City.

HAERTS will perform their new music on opening night, June 21st at 7:30 PM.


Interview: Katja Horvat

Photos: Julian Klincewicz